Sebastian Bergmann (31.May.2010 at 10:15)
Talk at IPC Spring Edition 2010 (English - UK)
Even if you have not played the game "Portal" you might have come across the phrase "The cake is a lie". According to the Urban Dictionary, it roughly translates to "your promised reward is merely a fictitious motivator".
Scaffolding, the meta-programming method of building software applications, promises easier development and a faster time-to-market. But the "code generation bliss" can lead to problems later on, for instance with regard to maintainability and scalability. This sessions takes a sceptical look at frameworks such as CakePHP and Symfony.
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Slides: The Cake is a Lie
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31.May.2010 at 08:47 by Robert Lemke
Good that you gave this talk despite you didn't plan to. The numbers you showed were quite enlightening - 10.000 lines of generated code for a simple app and no tests ...
In case you want to give this talk again, a clear summary of the pros and cons of using different framework types would be helpful.
01.Jun.2010 at 12:28 by Scott Mattocks
Nice presentation on the pitfalls of ORM-based frameworks. I would have liked to see a little more on alternative solutions. Maybe an example of how to achieve the same time to market or more a more maintainable solution using something like PEAR. It is easy enough to say "don't do this", but that leaves people stranded. Adding "try it this way instead" would make the presentation much more helpful.
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31.May.2010 at 08:23 by Frank Kleine
Concise summary of what the implications of using such frameworks as CakePHP or Symfony are, but fortunately no bashing of those. Would have been nice to have more real life examples where projects/applications stumbled into the named problems.