October is still in beta (definitely not production ready), and is a very new product (has rough edges and odd concepts at times), so like any open source project, input from the community is much appreciated. At the beginning of the session, I mentioned both of those aspects and that this session would be largely looking at a different way to do content management but it's certainly not for everyone. I also talked about some alternative CMS projects with other approaches.
Sorry you felt bored, Katherine! For more information on the file-based approach (which has pros and cons for sure), see http://octobercms.com/blog/post/getting-back-to-basics and feel free to contribute your feedback and questions directly on their forum at http://octobercms.com/forum/chan/october-helpsupport
Bradley, thanks for your feedback! Check out http://octobercms.com/features for an overview that might clarify the odd approach they've taken. May or may not clear things up. Also, check out the forums.
Thanks all for attending! Enjoyed the conversations after about alternative CMS approaches.
October is clearly not ready for prime time, but I didn't find the talk boring at all. It could have been a bit more focused, though. What specific problem is it solving that Drupal/WP don't? Maybe you were assuming a bit more knowledge about those implementations than I have.
I would have liked to know more about the contrasts (like, "Here's how Drupal does routing; here's how October does it, and here's why, well ok because Laravel, but also...") since that's what makes it compelling. When it deviates from Laravel, why does it do that? Also, does the team have a roadmap for implementation of more useful stuff, like Composer integration? Who are the devs (yes we can go look it up, but nice to know anyhow)?
Thanks for taking this on -- if it's to become a viable alternative to the old stuff, it needs champions.
Thanks for the feedback Monika! Unfortunately a 25 minute talk isn't enough time to do a full demo walkthru and a comparison to other CMS systems (there are so many). It was meant to be an overview on the project's approach and features, and a quick discussion of new approaches to content management.
Please give negative (and positive!) feedback directly to the October team at GitHub rather than providing it here (https://github.com/octobercms/october). I am not the project maintainer, just the presenter discussing an alternative idea. I think I learned a lesson here though. Never present a new beta product to a group of developers at php[tek]. Y'all are critical with your ratings, haha
Here's a new CMS that might be more suited to developers wanting a Composer installable CMS:
https://github.com/davzie/laravel-bootstrap
Thanks for the feedback Monika! Unfortunately a 25 minute talk isn't enough time to do a full demo walkthru and a comparison to other CMS systems (there are so many). It was meant to be an overview on the project's approach and features, and a quick discussion of new approaches to content management.
Please give negative (and positive!) feedback directly to the October team at GitHub rather than providing it here (https://github.com/octobercms/october). I am not the project maintainer, just the presenter discussing an alternative idea. I think I learned a lesson here though. Never present a new beta product to a group of developers at php[tek]. Y'all are critical with your ratings, haha
Here's a new CMS that might be more suited to developers wanting a Composer installable CMS:
https://github.com/davzie/laravel-bootstrap
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boring. October not ready for prod. don't understand why file-based? is it asynchronous?
Good overview of a very young CMS platform.
Presenter: Good Job!
Product: October is... odd and doesn't make much sense.
October is still in beta (definitely not production ready), and is a very new product (has rough edges and odd concepts at times), so like any open source project, input from the community is much appreciated. At the beginning of the session, I mentioned both of those aspects and that this session would be largely looking at a different way to do content management but it's certainly not for everyone. I also talked about some alternative CMS projects with other approaches.
Sorry you felt bored, Katherine! For more information on the file-based approach (which has pros and cons for sure), see http://octobercms.com/blog/post/getting-back-to-basics and feel free to contribute your feedback and questions directly on their forum at http://octobercms.com/forum/chan/october-helpsupport
Bradley, thanks for your feedback! Check out http://octobercms.com/features for an overview that might clarify the odd approach they've taken. May or may not clear things up. Also, check out the forums.
Thanks all for attending! Enjoyed the conversations after about alternative CMS approaches.
October is clearly not ready for prime time, but I didn't find the talk boring at all. It could have been a bit more focused, though. What specific problem is it solving that Drupal/WP don't? Maybe you were assuming a bit more knowledge about those implementations than I have.
I would have liked to know more about the contrasts (like, "Here's how Drupal does routing; here's how October does it, and here's why, well ok because Laravel, but also...") since that's what makes it compelling. When it deviates from Laravel, why does it do that? Also, does the team have a roadmap for implementation of more useful stuff, like Composer integration? Who are the devs (yes we can go look it up, but nice to know anyhow)?
Thanks for taking this on -- if it's to become a viable alternative to the old stuff, it needs champions.
Thanks for the feedback Monika! Unfortunately a 25 minute talk isn't enough time to do a full demo walkthru and a comparison to other CMS systems (there are so many). It was meant to be an overview on the project's approach and features, and a quick discussion of new approaches to content management.
Please give negative (and positive!) feedback directly to the October team at GitHub rather than providing it here (https://github.com/octobercms/october). I am not the project maintainer, just the presenter discussing an alternative idea. I think I learned a lesson here though. Never present a new beta product to a group of developers at php[tek]. Y'all are critical with your ratings, haha
Here's a new CMS that might be more suited to developers wanting a Composer installable CMS:
https://github.com/davzie/laravel-bootstrap
Thanks for the feedback Monika! Unfortunately a 25 minute talk isn't enough time to do a full demo walkthru and a comparison to other CMS systems (there are so many). It was meant to be an overview on the project's approach and features, and a quick discussion of new approaches to content management.
Please give negative (and positive!) feedback directly to the October team at GitHub rather than providing it here (https://github.com/octobercms/october). I am not the project maintainer, just the presenter discussing an alternative idea. I think I learned a lesson here though. Never present a new beta product to a group of developers at php[tek]. Y'all are critical with your ratings, haha
Here's a new CMS that might be more suited to developers wanting a Composer installable CMS:
https://github.com/davzie/laravel-bootstrap