I disagreed on so many levels here, like the statement that we would have to shift our focus to mobile. That's highly overrated, i don't see desktop web applications being replaced any time soon. Businesses don't want their employees to use our web applications on mobile devices for a reason, maybe it's handy for the end users, but thats just a tiny percentage of our target audience. Web development will continue to exist for many years to come. Graphics for mobile devices are good yes, but can they replace a 680GTX? Well, no. Are you going to write your applications on mobile devices? Probably not, not counting a laptop as a mobile device of course. Businesses are not going to give their employees iPads and let them work on that all they and expect them to be productive. They would rather prefer a configurable environment.
I see the point in that the mobile market is growing, and that companies who make fun farmville games or angry bird type games have nothing are going to lose their market on the PC and should switch to mobile. But this is absolutely not the case for enterprise php applications. They don't care about a accelerometer or 5 other types of sensors. Maybe they would need an app for updates on their app, or extremely simple tasks. Well then we can always rely on things like appcelerator and phonegap to do the lifting for us.
I don't think web tech is dead, but mobile is rising star consumer of data: be ready to get connected to that consumer. Interesting if somewhat overly dramatic presentation - but if you want to get a point across you have to exaggerate a bit, right? :)
I guess was missing the source of the statistics. This don't give me credibility for the presentation, once I don't know if you are lying or using crap sources.
About the content, I believe the mobile is important, but it is not applicable for all cases. If your company is not "mobile", you don't need to have a mobile app/site. Ie, companies that make tools probably don't need to have a mobile app/site because will be useless. People that uses these kind of tools will check the desktop version. Most of the use of mobile is when you are in the street, not at home/office.
Joe is a tech enterpreneur and it's nice to hear from people who are where the action happens. I liked the numbers Joe displayed in his presentation, it's somewhat confronting and a real eyeopener.
I do believe mobile still has lots of potential ahead and I believe the numbers, but I don't think it will entirely replace web or desktop apps. There's still a difference between interacting with the internet from a mobile device (when you're away from your workstation) and actually doing productive work at the desk.
Good stuff, I want to see more presentations by Joe. Although a bit more stories would have been welcome. Sometimes there were a bit too much numbers.
I think there was a valid point down there ("don't miss the mobile boat"), but I seriously disliked the topping of that cake. I think the message got lost in the shallow interpretation of most statistics (I'd also love to see sources for some) and the lack of any nuancing across the talk.
Wakeup call. API's, mobile and shallow front-ends are really going to be a big part of the future, i disagree with the apocalyptical tone that everything will be mobile, but its impossible to ignore that those skill will make a difference for sure.
I would have like the talk to flow a little better, some slides really flowed into each other, but some were like post-its in the way which you stopped and read.
I really enjoyed the talk as it did what I expect from a keynote: Give me insights into a topic I didn't have on my radar before.
The talk made the my world "a lot bigger" as it expanded the horizon. I'd love to get a set of slides that included sources for all the numbers thrown around just to be able to explore then more.
The presentation style was good, engaging and entertaining but the talk felt unpracticed and the pauses between the slides where to long, which I'd attribute to the missing remote presenter - Every slide transition was a pause, followed by a "click", some more seconds of silence and then another couple of words. It didn't feel like the slides where accompanying the presentation but reminder the speaker of the contents.
Thats of course just my perception and it might have been a deliberate choice but it surely didn't feel like that :)
It was so obvious this was intended for a US audience only. You just don't shock any European by saying that Asia has countries with bigger economies than that of Canada! Some statistics did say something but there were just too much. It's nice you did add something extra to your message with every statistic or else it would have been really boring. Though the keynote ended sooner than planned it really shouldn't have lasted any longer. I didn't completely agree with the message either: I don't think Mobile will completely replace the desktop market although I guess it will probably be bigger. At the end it was said that we can probably solve the problem of having 4 bilion extra internet users and contributors. I think this is a wrong statement: I think THEY will solve the problem themselves much quicker, because they don't care about all the old technologies we have to still deal with every day. Google, Apple, Facebook: In the future they will have larger Asian or even African counterparts and companies that will fill completely new gaps. Not a bad speaker though.
Interesting to see so many negative remarks on this talk. It made me fell uneasy too, but I acctually think he is more or less spot-on in his prediction.
But on the other hand I beleive that most of us "traditional web developers" allready have made the shift. html and forms still get used but most of our time gets spent with client side js or in the backend. That won't change in the near future.
To get rid of the mess with iOS-apps, Android apps, Windows Phone apps etc. etc. I really do hope for solutions like PhoneGap will mature enough to make it easy to make cross platform native apps from a single point of entry.
I was really shocked to hear that my job is going to disappear ;) The numbers where a real eye opener to me; mobile is really getting big. However I still think there will be backend devs for handling all the data and rendering the output.
Was great to see the actual numbers. Less great to hear that I will have to look for another job..
I've created some Android apps, but I'm not considering switching to a career in mobile just yet.
Great talk, good content and a fantastic speaker. He didn't fill the time slot but that's probably for the better. He really drives the point home with a sledgehammer and very scary numbers.
Good to see the numbers. I did not like the attitude of drop what you are doing and switch to javascript or android development. Any technology has its pros and cons. I 'd rather perfect my knowledge on php before switching to a technology of my choice. Mobiles are huge clients and huge markets, but other than gaming apps, you can make a lot of money on mobile without touching os. Building an app will be in a few years similar to building a website. Not something I would like to put on my CV.
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I disagreed on so many levels here, like the statement that we would have to shift our focus to mobile. That's highly overrated, i don't see desktop web applications being replaced any time soon. Businesses don't want their employees to use our web applications on mobile devices for a reason, maybe it's handy for the end users, but thats just a tiny percentage of our target audience. Web development will continue to exist for many years to come. Graphics for mobile devices are good yes, but can they replace a 680GTX? Well, no. Are you going to write your applications on mobile devices? Probably not, not counting a laptop as a mobile device of course. Businesses are not going to give their employees iPads and let them work on that all they and expect them to be productive. They would rather prefer a configurable environment.
I see the point in that the mobile market is growing, and that companies who make fun farmville games or angry bird type games have nothing are going to lose their market on the PC and should switch to mobile. But this is absolutely not the case for enterprise php applications. They don't care about a accelerometer or 5 other types of sensors. Maybe they would need an app for updates on their app, or extremely simple tasks. Well then we can always rely on things like appcelerator and phonegap to do the lifting for us.
I don't think web tech is dead, but mobile is rising star consumer of data: be ready to get connected to that consumer. Interesting if somewhat overly dramatic presentation - but if you want to get a point across you have to exaggerate a bit, right? :)
I guess was missing the source of the statistics. This don't give me credibility for the presentation, once I don't know if you are lying or using crap sources.
About the content, I believe the mobile is important, but it is not applicable for all cases. If your company is not "mobile", you don't need to have a mobile app/site. Ie, companies that make tools probably don't need to have a mobile app/site because will be useless. People that uses these kind of tools will check the desktop version. Most of the use of mobile is when you are in the street, not at home/office.
As speaker, very good.
Joe is a tech enterpreneur and it's nice to hear from people who are where the action happens. I liked the numbers Joe displayed in his presentation, it's somewhat confronting and a real eyeopener.
I do believe mobile still has lots of potential ahead and I believe the numbers, but I don't think it will entirely replace web or desktop apps. There's still a difference between interacting with the internet from a mobile device (when you're away from your workstation) and actually doing productive work at the desk.
Good stuff, I want to see more presentations by Joe. Although a bit more stories would have been welcome. Sometimes there were a bit too much numbers.
I think there was a valid point down there ("don't miss the mobile boat"), but I seriously disliked the topping of that cake. I think the message got lost in the shallow interpretation of most statistics (I'd also love to see sources for some) and the lack of any nuancing across the talk.
Wakeup call. API's, mobile and shallow front-ends are really going to be a big part of the future, i disagree with the apocalyptical tone that everything will be mobile, but its impossible to ignore that those skill will make a difference for sure.
I would have like the talk to flow a little better, some slides really flowed into each other, but some were like post-its in the way which you stopped and read.
Good inspiration but too many numbers.
I really enjoyed the talk as it did what I expect from a keynote: Give me insights into a topic I didn't have on my radar before.
The talk made the my world "a lot bigger" as it expanded the horizon. I'd love to get a set of slides that included sources for all the numbers thrown around just to be able to explore then more.
The presentation style was good, engaging and entertaining but the talk felt unpracticed and the pauses between the slides where to long, which I'd attribute to the missing remote presenter - Every slide transition was a pause, followed by a "click", some more seconds of silence and then another couple of words. It didn't feel like the slides where accompanying the presentation but reminder the speaker of the contents.
Thats of course just my perception and it might have been a deliberate choice but it surely didn't feel like that :)
Good talk
It was so obvious this was intended for a US audience only. You just don't shock any European by saying that Asia has countries with bigger economies than that of Canada! Some statistics did say something but there were just too much. It's nice you did add something extra to your message with every statistic or else it would have been really boring. Though the keynote ended sooner than planned it really shouldn't have lasted any longer. I didn't completely agree with the message either: I don't think Mobile will completely replace the desktop market although I guess it will probably be bigger. At the end it was said that we can probably solve the problem of having 4 bilion extra internet users and contributors. I think this is a wrong statement: I think THEY will solve the problem themselves much quicker, because they don't care about all the old technologies we have to still deal with every day. Google, Apple, Facebook: In the future they will have larger Asian or even African counterparts and companies that will fill completely new gaps. Not a bad speaker though.
Interesting to see so many negative remarks on this talk. It made me fell uneasy too, but I acctually think he is more or less spot-on in his prediction.
But on the other hand I beleive that most of us "traditional web developers" allready have made the shift. html and forms still get used but most of our time gets spent with client side js or in the backend. That won't change in the near future.
To get rid of the mess with iOS-apps, Android apps, Windows Phone apps etc. etc. I really do hope for solutions like PhoneGap will mature enough to make it easy to make cross platform native apps from a single point of entry.
I was really shocked to hear that my job is going to disappear ;) The numbers where a real eye opener to me; mobile is really getting big. However I still think there will be backend devs for handling all the data and rendering the output.
Good speaker, good keynote.
Was great to see the actual numbers. Less great to hear that I will have to look for another job..
I've created some Android apps, but I'm not considering switching to a career in mobile just yet.
Great talk, good content and a fantastic speaker. He didn't fill the time slot but that's probably for the better. He really drives the point home with a sledgehammer and very scary numbers.
nice talk and fun to see all these statistics
Good to see the numbers. I did not like the attitude of drop what you are doing and switch to javascript or android development. Any technology has its pros and cons. I 'd rather perfect my knowledge on php before switching to a technology of my choice. Mobiles are huge clients and huge markets, but other than gaming apps, you can make a lot of money on mobile without touching os. Building an app will be in a few years similar to building a website. Not something I would like to put on my CV.