09.Oct.2011 at 21:36 by Shaun
Introduced me to more things beyond phpunit , job done
PHP Tester's Toolbox
Sebastian Bergmann (08.Oct.2011 at 11:45)
Talk at PHP North West 2011 (English - UK)
Various testing tools exist to test the different aspects and layers of PHP applications. There is PHPUnit for Unit Testing (and Test-Driven Development), Behat and PHPSpec for Acceptance Testing (and Behaviour-Driven Development), Selenium for System Testing, and a plethora of tools for testing non-functional aspects such as performance and security.
This presentation provides an overview of the goals of each of these tools and shows the first steps to leveraging them in your daily routine.
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10.Oct.2011 at 07:59 by Anonymous
Obviously Sebastian is biased, and while I appreciate the good will that goes into demonstrating that 'other frameworks are available' they were cast aside immediately after presenting them. I think perhaps his time would have been better spent giving us a rundown of the tools he would suggest and how to use them; so long as that was accompanied by a disclaimer that they are his preference I think that's fine.
One other point was that perhaps his tone was a little dry, and I didn't feel like he was as interested in his talk as I was.
Overall though, a great insight into the thought process of a chap who's leading the charge on testing in PHP.
10.Oct.2011 at 08:40 by Tim Curzon
Overall, a pretty useful talk, especially the mention of integrating xhprof into your unit tests.
10.Oct.2011 at 08:42 by Chris Lovell
Delivered exactly what I was hoping for with this talk. Sebastian tried very hard not to be too biased towards PHPunit, and presented a great deal of other useful tools for testing along with a brief overview of his findings of them.
I'll certainly be looking at test mutation & Atoum after this talk.
10.Oct.2011 at 08:52 by Matthew Lawrence
Intersting talk on the different php testing systems available and this prompted me to attend the Behat talk which I am going to investigate in greater detail.
10.Oct.2011 at 09:34 by Steven Bakhtiari
I didn't really get a great deal out of the talk. The content was presented in a very dry manner and I didn't feel there was any passion or interest in the subject matter from Sebastian. On a positive note, I was introduced to a few new tools that I hadn't heard of before, namely Behat and Atoum.
10.Oct.2011 at 10:12 by Alex Mace
Useful talk, introduced me to a few news tool I wasn't aware of before like Behat, and XHProf integration in PHPUnit.
I think I'd have preferred a little more about XHProf/PHPUnit integration than Atoum, simply because apparently Atoum's examples apparently don't work out of the box and the documentation is in French, so the performance testing stuff I could do with XHProf would have been much more useful than a buggy unit testing framework with no docs in the native language of most of the audience.
10.Oct.2011 at 10:47 by M1ke
The talk was well thought out but presented in a dry manner, and seemed to revolve mostly around alternatives to PHPUnit that had already been decided as inferior. Could have done with a few alternative and maybe more complex examples, and a primer at the beginning giving a 5 min overview of unit testing to newer developers would have been a good touch,
10.Oct.2011 at 12:33 by Anonymous
An interesting introduction to a good range of testing tools and methodologies, even though it was biased he did explain this at the start! More examples would've been useful.
10.Oct.2011 at 13:04 by Les Rowley
A useful overview that attendees will be able to use to get more detail on the areas that particularly interested them.
10.Oct.2011 at 13:59 by Stephen Melrose
A good talk on the different testing solutions out there. It was quite biassed towards PHPUnit, although Sebastian admitted this from the start.
I do it was a tad slow and boring, so didn't engage as much as I did other talks.
10.Oct.2011 at 21:53 by Michelangelo van Dam
Sebastian, a great job to compare test frameworks alongside each other, even going beyond the frameworks by looking at the side projects to improve testing and QA. And even though I've read a lot on unit testing, you still managed to introduce me to new things. I humbly thank you for this information.
10.Oct.2011 at 22:09 by Anthony Doherty
Enjoyed this one, good to be introduced to new tools in the field by someone with a clear understanding of the problems they're there to fix.
The discussion of the BDD tools may not have done them justice, the speaker didn't convince me of the benefits of incorporating design processes into tests - but then that may have been the point.
With a self-confessed bias towards certain offerings I know I'll need to look into things like BeHat and Atoum myself to make sure I understand where they can/could/should fit into a testing routine, but overall I got alot out of this talk.
11.Oct.2011 at 02:23 by Mark Robinson
A good overview of the tools available. Introduced me to others that I had never encountered before (e.g. Behat, Atoum).
11.Oct.2011 at 08:39 by matthew mcconnell
A very informative talk, gave me a good few ideas of the available frameworks that are out there.
11.Oct.2011 at 12:39 by Alex Luneburg
It was interesting to see some of the alternatives to phpUnit and how they compare but other than that I didn't get much from this talk. It also wasn't as wide ranging as I was expecting from the title and outline.
11.Oct.2011 at 13:57 by Johannes Henrysson
Pretty good overview. It's hard to fit enough information about each alternative, so it pretty much just a short introduction and a recommendation.
It would have been nice to see some live examples, get to know a little bit more about various features of each alternative etc.
However, still an interesting session with a lot of useful information.
11.Oct.2011 at 18:41 by Lineke Kerckhoffs-Willems
I don't know what I expected of the talk, but this wasn't it. It took only a few minutes before you lost my attention and somehow you didn't get it back. Too bad because it might have been worth it.
15.Oct.2011 at 09:09 by Mark Jones
Not quite what was expected. Talk mostly listed the potential testing tools with little discussion rather than providing a set of tools and a workflow that was practical and usable.
Still interesting to see some of the different tools available and some of the benefits/problems with them.
18.Oct.2011 at 14:23 by ray mosley
Good introduction to different tools. If you are not expert at testing and knowing the different testing suites out there (but at least have heard of testing and used a suite or two) then this was worth while in my opinion. Again like another commenter this prompted me to visit the Behat session.
19.Oct.2011 at 18:12 by Anonymous
Never attended a talk by Sebastian.
I wasn't personally interested in the alternatives to phpunit, I know that phpunit is the de facto standard. Second part was much better. That was my fault anyway as I was simply expecting something else.
Like the behat part
09.Oct.2011 at 14:49 by Anonymous
Good overview of the different test tools available for PHP and choosing the right one for the right scenario. Would've been good to see a live example of tests though.