Keynote Panel - Frameworks: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly


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Unmoderated twitter stream kept the audience amused throughout mildly informative conversation.

Twitter stream was distracting and amusing at same time. Talk touched on some interesting topics but there wasn't really a lot of lively debate.

Lacked an agenda.

Lack of coverage of actual frameworks apart from some polite references to ZF, and generic talk about using frameworks or not.

Panel could be better for the talk to flow (perhaps with the addition of a simfony, micro-framework and UI framework).

Not the impassioned debate I was hoping for.

No clear topic covered.

I think the discussion could have been a very emotive, involved affair, but fell very flat. I'm not entirely sure how the audience got into the mood it did, but when the Twitterfall becomes the main event then you have to worry.

It's a shame, because in the middle of it there were a couple of salient points.

No debate between panel, just ended up being a Q&A which added no value to the event.

Shame there appeared to be a few panelist with strong views, but they appeared to hold back on their opinions.

Although this was meant to be a debate the only piece of contention was wether people who use frameworks should analys and know the inner guts of their chosen framework.

Some choices such as attendees having nothing to drink and the I un-moderated twitter board were obviously learned from by the next day.

It was a shame that the tweets about beer distracted from what might have otherwise been an interesting talk about frameworks. I say 'might have been' because the Twitter stream did include some pertinent questions, but they were lost in the noise and weren't put to the panel.

There was, sadly, no panel debate and the chair did nothing to foster any kind of debate. Some of the panellists obviously prefer component libraries and presumably some prefer full-fat frameworks: there's a point on contention that I'd have been interested to hear discussed. Some people tweeted about that, but the discussion never happened.


A bit dull and a topic without much to discuss, the twitter panel ended up flooded with tweets about beer and no real questions about frameworks.

The panel clearly lacked an agenda and they guys lost my attention after the first few minutes. The twitter board only made the things worse dragging audience attention away from the topic.

As a reasonable fan of CakePHP, was a bit disappointed by panelists stating that "I really didn't get on with CakePHP", followed closely by "but I'm not going to tell you why" and "and of course if it works for you then by all means use it". And we're meant to learn from this kind of expert insight... what exactly?